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Tidbits and Systems: Inside the Tramper

Temperature Regulation

While renovating the old beast I knew it had to provide a comfortable safe haven from all weather.  I towed it to the Catskills and tested the Wave 3, catalytic furnace in the original trailer without insulation.

Wave 3

Wave 3

This little furnace is 93% efficient, it burns propane on a catalytic grid and emits only CO2 and water.  No carbon monoxide, just need to keep venting in a little air.  Pretty handy in a space this small.  The old flame, blower, and chimney propane furnaces are less than 30% efficient. And considerably bigger.

The Wave easily established and maintained the interior just above 50 degrees Farhenhite.  Quite tolerable for a camp weekend, but needed improvement for a long journey.  Underneath the pretty amber birch walls I added 1 1/2″ foam insulation and, most importantly, foil-bubble-foil all around.  Similar to the stuff used for those silver windshield sunshades,  this reflects “our heat” back in where it belongs.  We are noticeably warmer with a lot less effort.  camper progress 035 camper progress 021No cold breeze over your shoulder.  Helps out in the desert or high heat areas too.  The inside never exceeded 80 degrees on a killer sunny Florida day or August in our driveway.

On this New Years Eve we experienced not only record cold more than 10 below zero, but also constant high winds.  We were cozy under our sleeping bag, a ZERO degree Teton bag capable of Winter tent camping.  So far we’ve only used it as a quilt though, one of two bags that can zip together if we were ever actually cold.

We could see curtain movement beside those lovely old jalousie windows.  To make a decision here we had to wait and explore our longer-term parking arrangement.  As we are now parked facing South, our two biggest windows keep the place “solar-warmed” all day long.  Really, arriving back from skiing on a 10 degree day, we have to vent out some heat.  I sealed all sun-facing windows with clear plastic sheeting to collect sun all day.  Thus retained the ability to insert our foils at night over them too for an inexpensive “triple-glazing”.  The North facing windows are only double-glazed with the foils taped directly into the screen frame.

Its so warm and cozy we had to leave the “kitchen window” unsealed so we can add or subtract the foil but not seal so tightly.  Its amazingly comfortable in the Tramper.  The only other addition I made yesterday was to carpet the whole interior.  We had only throw rugs, but now my feet are so much more comfy on the complete carpet.  $19 at Walmart for a 5 X 7 space rug cut in half and trimmed into place.  I even put down a free carpet pad a-la-cardboard.

Another 1957 trim update is the ceiling vent.  OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERAUpon arrival home I had no cap or cover.  However, the roof did not leak so I was not anxious to buy a compete new vent and cut a square hole.  The Goodwill on Joppa road provided a deep aluminum frying pan combined with a foam gasket, some rivets and aluminum angle to allow protection, stop rain and house a new fan I disassembled and repurposed just for the purpose. (total spent ~50bucks instead of two fifty).   Besides, I really liked the aperture-like slides to open and close.

Food Storage

Lynn supplied me with a modern Propane/Electric fridge made by Dometic.

Lots of food space

Lots of food space

These things are quite expensive new, so his salvage saved me well over a thousand dollars.  A very neat design without any moving parts uses heat to boil ammonia in a double sealed system, and take advantage of the expansion/contraction cycle to create cold.  This thing works great!  All I have to do is watch the fridge temp and regulate the outdoor vent sizes according to ambient temps.

Right now it is running on campground electricity but barely uses any propane anyway.  It burns a flame barely bigger than what a pilot light would be.  Very cool system, I think it is an old Swedish design.


We knew we wanted solar, but knew nothing about it.  The first step in any system was defining our needs.  My estimate was about 19 Amp hours total per day.  Turns out we use lots less.  To plan, you figure in how many hours of light, how many of charging phones and computers, how much would a fan use for how long, the fridge (0), and what other electronics we’d need.  Then the Amperes drawn can be multiplied by hours, days, etc.

Constant information

Constant information

I shopped around and bought the panel and system online from the most helpful vendor who also happened to be in Baltimore.  (you can visit my “solar post” on Good Old RV’s for details)


In use, it seems perfectly suited in an overkill kind of way.  We knew we didn’t ever want a stinky, noisy generator so the panel is bigger than it needed to be.  It is a 130 Watt panel, able to deliver 10 Amps max in the perfect alignment.  When you look at output though, it is only optimal midday with all things perfect.  What we have found with this bigger panel is that we leave it flat, tolerate shade and clouds and have only charged our storage battery twice in over 110 days.  We probably didn’t really have to, but the plug was available and Hurricane Sandy kept us in shade for more than 1o days in a row.

Funny thing though.  Even on a cloudy, lightly raining day the system charges about .9 to 1.2 Amps.  All day long!  The water in the air must reflect some energy down all the time.  I guess that goes along with sunburn on cloudy days like moms always told us.  Anyway, it just keeps trickling in.  AND we don’t use much.


An original 57 yellowstone rewired with one LED “puck” inside


A chipped Lowe’s fixture with three LED “pucks”


An $8 IKEA, incandescent, with socket removed, yup, you guessed it LED “pucks” inside

LED’s use less than 1/10th of regular lights.  With all of our lights on at once, we use .8-.9 Amps.  Our computer sucks in 4 Amps to charge and takes about anhour to top off.  But if things have been borderline, we just charge it in the truck while driving.  The ceiling fan pulls an Amp on low, so the hotter nights of a desert may test us.  We’ve never been too hot in a tent though, without any fan.

It really has us re-evaluating the normal way everything works at home on the grid.  We are thinking solar for our house.  Probably swap a bunch of lights for LED’s.  IKEA has more selection than most other sources, this I learned while planning the Tramper systems.

100_6752Another funny free add-on has been salvaged computer fans.  Free is a good price and they too use less than an Amp.  I’ve employed one to vent the hydrogen from the charging battery.   One to vent above the stove.  And Finally placed a pair at the coils of the fridge for assist on days over 90 degrees.  (I found this need in the driveway in Towson, not much on the road yet).


The Tramper had an old system within that included a porcelain toilet, galvanized steel drain pipe, a black water tank and sink.  Its water pressure was created in a sealed tank with compressed air like a car tire.  It worked for my test trips but needed serious upgrading.

The old tank is galvanized steel, 18 gallons and didn’t leak.  I just couldn’t bring myself to throwing it away.  But I wouldn’t drink from a 50 year old trash can either.  So we carry plastic gallon bottles and dedicated 5 gallon jugs as needed. (Another Lynn sourced item lies on the back of the 4Runner; blue is water, red spare gas)   The goal is carry only what we need, water is heavy!  If we know we’re headed for a park with water we drain it all except a few liters carried to drink.

The tank now leads to 1/2″ PEX tubing, reputed to survive freezing well.  I tested a loop with a connector in my freezer at home with success, but still arranged all plumbing indoors a foot away from the walls.  There being no way to see the water level in the tank, I put in a T, added a stop valve, and some clear tubing.  With the Tramper leveled, I added 2, 4, 6, etc gallons and marked these on the cabinet next to the clear tube.

There is a 12Volt pump, an expansion tank, an 8 gallon water heater that lights itself easily with a switch.  It quickly heats all that water in about 10-15 minutes from a cold start.   This I placed strategically under the foot of the bed,  on Jane’s side.  Subtle extra warmth all night.  Its even warm in the morning though I turn it off all night.

The idea of a toilet and effluence was eliminated.  We have a porta pot, but prefer the bathouse, restrooms etc.  Don’t want the weight or ordeals.  No black water. Enough said.

What we needed was a shower.  I got a 24″ square shower pan and built a new closet around it.  Our shower is about 4″ smaller than the toilet room, this left me room to add a delightful little bookshelf.  I framed the space as thinly as possible, making dadoed joints like furniture to strengthen the walls without taking space.  Lots of clamps.

Lots of clamps...no shellac yet...

Lots of clamps…no shellac yet…

Lots of making it up as I went along.  Make a piece, define the space, measure to make the next piece.   The inside of our shower is now lined with FRP, Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic.  Its bumpy and white, I’m sure you’ve seen it in some commercial bathroom, if you “bothered” to notice.

The sprayer has a button on it to stop the flow.  Once regulated, the temperature stays the same.  So, just wet down, turn it off, soap up, turn on and rinse.  I have measured my own use to be about 2 gallons this way.  In warmer camps we could hook up and run “normal” shower amounts, but have come to prefer this efficiency.

Again, our off-grid experience has us questioning our home and what “everyone is accustomed  to”.   Not sure what changes are in store; you know they say travel changes you.



There were cabinets within the Tramper when I brought it home, but we’ve redone as needed.  the new fridge is about an inch wider and 4 inches deeper than  the 1957 version.  I built an entirely new unit on that side.  Then added shelves with the bottom one engineered around our 2 ski boot bags.  Each of us has one basket to contain “all clothing for the whole trip”.  We minimized over and over to get to this point and wash small items regularly, hanging them to dry for the next use.  Here the air is so dry, things dry amazingly fast.  Rosendale, NY during the cold, dank Fall was a little different.  We had to aim our heater at the laundry lines.

The "Glove box" final assembly done in Gardiner, Maine along the voyage

The “Glove box” final assembly done in Gardiner, Maine along the voyage

Another small but invaluable addition was a little, wedge-shaped box I was initially calling a glove box.   Its tapered to provide headroom, and allow sitting in front of it.  What it has become is an electronics catch-all.  All chargers, wires, shavers, instructions, cases etc have landed there and can consistently be found.



Fire extinguisher, conveniently at the door, and a smoke detector.

Sleeping Accommodations

The "Couch" in back

The “Couch” in back

The back of the trailer has a “couch area” that flattens out into our bed; “80X43”.  that makes it bigger than a Twin, smaller than a Full.  We have air mattresses from camping and some thin pads to round it out.  This choice was based on weight, foldability and comfort.  Two separate mattresses works out well, I can climb out of bed without raising the other side like a trampoline.  We honestly sleep comfortably!  We’ve even declined beds in houses we’ve visited.


Our “range” was found by my friend John.  He forwarded me a Craigslist picture, I called the seller, and rushed over and bought it for $40.  It is an Avocado delight with three burners and the cutest oven since Easy Bake.  We have made pizza, banana bread, zucchini bread, brownies and, of course, Toll House Blondies.



More People!

I ease into most days with the well-wishing of others back home in my mind.  Seems every day someone is helping us get going, do a little laundry, blessing us, or just joining us for a laugh.  We do that often and sometimes with little provoking.

The Tramper and 4Runner Truck are performing pretty much flawlessly.  The poor truck does “ping” sometimes on the highway when I abuse it trying to keep with uphill traffic .  Premium gas, cautious shifts of the automatic transmission and overall patience keep that to a minimum.  Any of you who know what  pinging is (or have heard of it but don’t) may be aware that its like hitting the pistons with a blazing hot blacksmith’s hammer 3000 times per minute.  Essentially spontaneous combustion occurs to an unstable mixture of fuel and air before the piston even reaches it’s top position where it should await an explosion lit by the spark plugs you pay for that job.  That’s where power comes from if things are running right.

I brought the Toyot (missing the A on the tailgate) to a few small shops to see if anyone had time to squeeze in a look.  Both places were gracious, the first mechanic was middle aged, but wore a mohawk.  It was hard to look him in the eye much.  His shop was booked.  The next guy was familiar with 4Runners as that’s what he drives.  Steve squeezed me in this morning for an oil change, transmission fluid change, and to aim a timing light at the 3.0 V-6.  It is as good as  it is going to get; So, my patience and smaller roads will preserve the motor.  I Hope.  Oh yeah, he said GOOD LUCK on the trip, take your wife out to dinner and didn’t charge any labor!  ($33 bucks: wow, the world is full of good people)

Cusick's sign was all I had to go on until I stopped in to ask about squeezing me into their schedule

Cusick’s sign was all I had to go on until I stopped in to ask about squeezing me into their schedule

In Acadia I heard a guy in the Market and Grill mention making pie while we ate breakfast.  When I asked about a slice, the waitress said they didn’t sell pie.  So in a moment Michael (we think) came over and said we could have a slice.  He had made 4 pies for Church and social groups, with one going to his co-workers (or employees) at the grill.  He insisted Jane and I share one, warmed and A-la-Mode’.  Wow, what a baker.  I think it was better than the ones I make with subtle wisps of flavor and a delicate crust.  (the world is full of good people)

In New York we stopped at what could have been a kitchy-artifice of a country market.  A glance saw tchatchkies , knicknacks, candies and handcrafted items.  Closer scrutiny bore out the deep roots; this is a Farmer’s store.  Produce and blacksmithed items at reasonable prices.  (A sizable weathervane for ~$50)  When we met the proprietor I knew it to be the real deal.  Doug and I traded yarns while he checked out the Tramper, each with trouble finishing his story before the other wanted to speak.  By the end, I told him he could borrow the Tramper after our voyage.  Seriously.  A pair of tires or a battery would be good rent and it would be out of my driveway for a month or so.  I don’t know if it was his smile, handshake or stories that gave me the confidence in mankind.

Doug and I in the glory of the day on his parking lot

Doug and I in the glory of the day on his parking lot

Back to the people supporting, nurturing our ride.  A long-time friend who used to let me watch him restore Indian motorcycles and Willy’s Jeeps (I was about 6 years old) certainly kindled my adventure and mechanical roots.  When I researched small trucks on Craigslist part of my selection was confirmed by the previous owner Steve, who had purchased it for his son who now had to go off to college at University of Maryland.  Steve shook hands on the type of deal where trust meant he would hold it until we returned to buy it in a few days.  No deposit required.  I almost felt bad pointing out the work I’d be doing to get it through inspection and safe.  Of course the $300 price break came in handy for rear axle seals, bearings, and rear brakes.  I had to dip into savings for the rest of the parts: front brakes, 4 shocks, mud flaps, muffler, hoses, belts, fluids and “all”.

A surprise came when neighbor Billy brought over one last present, a Dietz kerosene lamp of about the same vintage as the trailer.  He had also donated several small details, some used, some stored at home; an awning and poles, a big plastic water tank.

Look carefully, the left light is a 50 year old kerosene lamp (better picture to be posted) Thanks Billy!

Look carefully, the left light is a 50 year old kerosene lamp (better picture to be posted) Thanks Billy!

When I was trying to make new Birch look like old Birch I trialed about 20 different stain combinations.  It was serendipitous  that I met Dave, a customer at Woodcraft, who showed me the perfect product.  A small bottle of Brown Maple Aliphatic Dye to measure into the shellac, ml. by ml. until the desired hue is found.  Wonderful.

We mentioned Tom and Jean who came and fed us one eve during our hurried final packing.  And, of course, Jane’s recovery from that pesky but benign biopsy. They packed us champagne and steaks.  Wow.  We feel so privileged.

Jane and I both felt compelled to get really good hiking boots.  Jane’s slip and fall while descending the Sterling Pond “bouldering-staircase” cinched it for her needs.  An old pair of Vasque boots had been overheated by a fire ring at Lykens a few years before and were failing.  My own boots were >5 years old from LL Bean and were lasted like a pair of buckets.  We searched the internet which led us to the mall and a store that didn’t stock boots in Jane’s size. The clerk there said, “check Sleepers”, a store next door.   There we met Demarre and Matt who fervently helped as if they meant it.  Matt’s family makes maple syrup so we are well stocked now!  We bought a wine bottle FULL  of Maple Syrup…dark and sure to be delicious soon.

When it came time to leave Maine we went to a gravel pit and weighed the rig.  A business called Ferraiolo’s in Farmingdale didn’t bat an eye as I drove between dump trucks, front end loaders, and gravel spreaders with my little lumbering Tramper.   The scale man was cordial, said the price would be 5 or 10 bucks.  After we finished, he asked for $5.  First I drove onto the long steel plate, total weight: 8,640 lbs.  Then the truck alone: 5,220 lbs. that leaves the Tramper at 3,420.  I guess I’ll look at the ratios, freight rates and see just how bad, or good it is to get the 12-ish mpg we’re getting.  Oh yeah, the people.  He was smiling and eating a tootsie-pop.  Just the right touch to a down-home send off and a cheap way to see how much our load weighs.

Small, five-year-old Parker made us a book of art and helped us on our Raystown, PA  test run.  His dad Steve graciously loaned us his Dodge truck.  perhaps nicest and most frequently seen though, is the cool quilted Tramper banner that hangs proudly at our door.  Donna gave this to Jane days before we left.  We travel on love of family and friends.  We miss you all daily and take note of or take pictures of things you each “just have to see”.

Rainbow artist - Parker L.

Rainbow artist – Parker L.

Yes, there is indulgence in this journey.  But, too we feel there is some amount of inspiration.  Good People Everywhere.  Plus, we demonstrate the possibility of doing that dream that you’ve always dreamt! (even if it doesn’t involve traveling in an aluminum box for a year).

Barriers: The Truck Again

Funny.  I always seem to roll around on the ground in parking lots at the right time.  I wasn’t looking for anything in particular but noticed that the bumper had pinched a wire against the hitch.  Not enough to cut it apart…but maybe it caused a short?  Yup, checking the lights (truck and Tramper), showed NO BRAKE LIGHTS.   Can’t drive like that (we were at CVS getting new passport pics)…so, check and swap the fuse.  (My spares are back at Bob’s in the camper, so I took out the running light 15 amp and put it into the Brake spot.)  CLoser inspection showed I had a Left turn signal and  brake light, but nothing on the Right.

Got home, added the Running light fuse.  Still no R signal.  I have quite a selection of tools and was graced by the invitation to use Dale’s garage space.  The cheap little diagnostic light with a wire and alligator clip at one end and a pointy probe at the other includes a lightbulb in between.  It showed me I had bright light before the little black Toyota trailer thingy, but dim after…  Bought a new one at the RV Store for $12.99 and fiddled/taped for awhile.  WOOHOO, all lights work.  I will not stand for or drive a trailer whose lights don’t work; all of ’em!

Oh yeah, also had Andrew’s help the day before putting the new springs, Cargo Springs, on the 4Runner.  I like it here.  People live and solve the problems of life: food, shelter, transportation.  I think there is a clear knowledge of Season.  It is Fall, there are things to do before Winter.  The springs took us under 2 hours to put in and the camaraderie of working with a peer is great.  I enjoyed it enough to ask for work today.  We again shared the calm meditative state only “working” can provide.  I helped Andrew stack cordwood for drying.

Yes, with Cargo Springs the truck is back at factory height.  I think it had sagged over its 17 years.  The back is about 1 1/2 inches higher now; Can’t wait to plop the trailer on it in the morning and see how far down it goes!

– David


When last I wrote of people, I mentioned being fortunate enough that Jane didn’t “leave me” upon seeing the large aluminum box in our driveway (our wonderful neighbors never complained either).   My next tasks were planning and starting the notebook that accompanies all my bigger projects.  I had to start somewhere, preservation began with recoating the silver tar roof, getting good tires/wheels.  I found Hubcap City (which a guy was operating from his cell phone), he asked what I needed (6 lug, 15″ wheels), then agreed to meet me at a diner on Route 40 to exchange cash for them. (Nice guy, guaranteed the quality and fit, wish I could remember his name).

Next, on to Frank at Interstate tire.  He suggests cheap, but quality tires for a trailer because they invariably dry rot before you wear them out.  Maybe I’ll wear these out though?  Very, very nice guy, dry humor, reliable and NOT mercenary.  Funny how many people know of him whenever I mention his shop. Then I used “Service Tire” shop out Route 40 for my Maryland State Inspection.  I knew I wouldn’t be finished within 30 days for a re-inspection, but the guy was very helpful and suggested I could patch and repair the frame using welds and “fish plates” on both sides of defects. In my earlier post I described that I cut the bolts holding the camper onto the trailer frame and then moved into the unknown.  Somehow the wooden body stayed together as I raised it above the rotted steel. When I towed the newly welded bare steel frame home, my neighbor Ray was ready and willing to help push it into my garage and watch as I washed off the road salt and dirt in preparation for Rustoleum.  I skipped the high-tech suggestions of powder coating to shave a few $ from the project, and rolled on primer and satin black figuring the first one lasted >50 years. Freshly rolled frame waiting for the next step: can I really get this back under the body

...yeah, just take off the wheels, plop the springs on some casters and shove it back under...(all on someone else's property because he has a level concrete pad and a little faith that I finish something I started)

Perhaps the biggest contribution came from a long time friend and mentor: Lynn.  He had previously scrapped out a camper and offered the systems to me for a price I would have to name.  Dometic fridge (propane/electric), water heater (propane), a big Inverter/electric distribution system (that I later abandoned for solar and two parallel but separate systems) and a pump.  I gave some sorry low amount  of cash and a full bottle of Freon R 12 that I saved from going into the Cockeysville landfill.  (later estimated to be worth about 8-12 hundred dollars).  He saved me thousands and provided phone consults freely.

His friend Matt came by and unwound one of my many electrical conundrums.  Trailer lights should be a very finite problem; 4 wires, just a few functions, but they keep giving me fits at various times (once again today in Maine, I have no R turn or brake….crap, I’ll fix it soon, but it gets pissy).  Matt was also involved in helping Lynn get a Jeep for mail delivery, then sending a blue and red tank my way.  You’ll likely see them on the back of the 4Runner in some pic or another.  One day I’ll be pouring 5 gallons of gas into my truck thinking of how Matt saved me on a road with no open gas stations.  (tanks are empty now in the busy east).

John (of Melanie and John, pickup truck loan fame), emailed me a link to the cutest avocado Holiday stove on Craigslist.  I drove over to Gilman School to buy it for some $40-ish dollars.  Another very nice guy who was making a camper of his own and parted out a broken down 1960’s Shasta.  Into my garage it went to wait about a year before I tested and installed it.

Alan (of flat driveway fame, glad to have finally on Mother’s day be unburdened of my big aluminum box) came to my rescue again.  He gave me all of the Formica counter coverings seen gracing the dinette table and sink counters.  He had rescued this from disposal at work as they rebuilt the laminate rack and restocked the shop.

I called and emailed several different suppliers of solar equipment.  The single most helpful contact turned out to be right in Baltimore.  Brent at Mr Solar answered all of my usual and unusual questions promptly by phone and email as I learned as much as I could about a new topic.  (I wrote a blog about this equipment experience on my Good Old RV’s home page under Solar Newbies). Jane received a nice tutorial introduction to upholstery from Julia, my boss at Sinai.  She came by one evening and helped out with the confidence Jane would need as she created the dinette cushions using 20-some pages of internet step-by-steps, where we also learned about cutting on the bias to create your own binding, edging and finished work.

Jane’s cushions…I sit on this one right now as I write

Our great friend Jeff from the Aquarium rescued not a dolphin, but some sheets of 1/4 inch plexiglas that save me 40 bucks as I made double layered windows for the door that “may fend off a bear”.  I knew clearly that my temporary single layer of 1/8 stuff had NO CHANCE as just pushing it in hard enough flexed it to allow pulling it out of the tracks.

Another ongoing and invaluable source of info has been Custom Coach.  When I find great info and answers anywhere I am happy.  When these answers come from a woman in what could be a male-dominated setting, I have admit it adds something.  That Jane too ended up saying “she’s the one we really like” was very nice as Jenn answered most questions from her own font of knowledge, happily looked stuff up online and in catalogs and knew the difference between metric or US fasteners readily.  Her “Happy Camper” t-shirt and smile made it a pleasure to stop in and add to my knowledge and stockpile of parts that gradually became our Tramper.  (not unlike Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang)

– David

I glanced back at this post and remember a Very Fond Morning.  I wanted to replace the floor with something nicer than grey-brown chip like peels that once were tiles.  I made a paper pattern and was greeted in the sunny driveway by our neighbor CHARLIE.  He was about 3 1/2 at the time, but was happy to hold down the paper and linoleum  as the wind and bright sun made my tracing a bit harder.  He put down a toy and moved freely to help out.  After about an hour(!), I could see his attention waning, but I couldn’t have laid that nice checkerboard floor without Charlie’s help.  We miss him and wish he could drop in to play with Miss Jane and I.

Barriers: The truck

I would “normally” have driven and tested a vehicle for months before an adventure like this.  The new 4Runner got about 150 local miles only.  They tend to look “front high” even at rest (rear fenders are cut 3″ lower), but ours, loaded and under the tongue of the Tramper looks so tired.  I always test “emergent” capabilities of vehicles in non-emergent places (like snow handling in a parking lot).  So it was some surprise that the front wheels will skid in hard braking.  I hope to re-weigh the loaded rig soon, but I want to get the truck to sit more level.  I have ordered new rear coil springs (to go with the already installed new brakes, shocks, muffler, rear wheel bearings, wheel cylinders, plugs, wires, hoses and belts that comprise my faith in this 1995 beast with somewhat unknown 150,000 miles on it).

The biggest safety feature, of course is thought and forethought, but the second biggest is the “low speeds” we are traveling.  40-50 mph offers far more reaction time and stopping ability than what many people use “on the Interstate”.

Meanwhile we roll slowly, remembering “You could fall off a cliff and die but you could also stay home, fall off the couch and die”.